randy_byers: (2009-05-10)
randy_byers ([personal profile] randy_byers) wrote2010-06-03 10:32 am
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Listless Buddha

Now that I know that "listless" derives from a Middle English word, "list," that meant "appetite, craving; desire, longing; inclination," it strikes me that in this original sense the Buddhists would consider listlessness an ideal state.

[identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com 2010-06-03 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, you got it. "Lust" means much the same in German. OED's first definition for the Old English "list" is "pleasure, joy, delight," and that's actually closer to the modern sense of "listless".
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[identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com 2010-06-03 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, sure, it would be much the same in German -- I just don't use my German as often -- since the word probably dates back to when German, English, and Swedish were all the same proto-Germanic language. It's all just a vowel-change away.

And apropos of using one's Swedish, if you would be interested in English-subtitled copies of The Girl Who Played with Fire and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest, I could probably set you up. Also, I have a movie of yours to return...

[identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com 2010-06-03 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think The Girl Who Played with Fire is getting a theatrical release here in the next month or so, although I've heard it's not a very good movie. Which movie of mine do you have? Is it Love at Large?
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[identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com 2010-06-03 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought The Girl Who Played with Fire was somewhat weaker than Dragon Tattoo, but I wouldn't say it was "not very good". The thing is the three films are really one giant story arc, really, and middle films/books often feel, well, middly and unresolved, and so it is in Played with Fire. The third film picks up the thread literally minutes after the events of the 2nd film. Also, Lisbeth runs into problems in the 2nd film that she cannot resolve without help, which doesn't really kick in fully until the third film, so again with the middliness. Lisbeth is also less than superhumanly competent in places in the 2nd and 3rd film, and is sometimes less acting than acted upon, though most of the time this makes sense in the larger context of the story. One could argue that the denouement in Played with Fire is a bit contrived, but I could argue either way.

Anyway, yes, I have dug out your copy of Love at Large out of the Stuff Downstairs, and missed seeing you at the last pubmeet.

[identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com 2010-06-03 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, the "middliness" explanation makes sense. The other comments I've seen have focused on how it has a different director than the first movie.

In any event, maybe we can do lunch next week and you can hand over the DVD. Or there's the party at my house on the 12th, or the pubmeet on the 13th.
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[identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com 2010-06-03 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
While I am planning to make both party and pubmeet, lunch next week would be swell also.

[identity profile] jophan.livejournal.com 2010-06-04 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'd bet that the vowel change in English is Anglo-French influence. A number of words with a "u" in them changed the pronunciation to an "i" because, well, that's how the French pronounced the vowel.