Well, we really do disagree about all of this. I guess what I would observe is that you didn't respond at all to the list of Obama's accomplishments I made, nor did you suggest how he could have improved on those accomplishments. Do you think he could have achieved Medicare for All, for example? Which 60 Senators do you think would have voted for that? Joe Lieberman of the State of the Insurance Industry, who wouldn't even vote for the public option? Down to 59 already, and that's before you consider Ben Nelson, not that it matters, because 59 votes wouldn't have been enough without filibuster reform (which would have had to be done by the Senate, not Obama). Do you think the deal with Iran is worth nothing? Do you think the reduction in carbon emissions is worth nothing, or could have been increased somehow? Do you think the investment in solar energy technology is worth nothing? Is the Medicaid expansion worth nothing? Is the fact that I have friends who are benefiting from it worth nothing? I understand that it's not good enough, and that there's way, way more to be done, and that the system is thoroughly corrupt. But I do not understand the refusal to acknowledge that progress has been made, as ugly as some of it has been. I think the list of accomplishments is pretty amazing, honestly, even though it's not enough.