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Date: 2009-09-26 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kdotdammit.livejournal.com
It is SO SEXY. I saw those film stills this morning, and I'm not kidding, it's like softcore porn for me. I think, for me, Marienbad is the most sexy movie every made. Nothing turns me on like Marienbad. This still is so so so HOT. So to answer your question, it's a ferocious desire. Utterly fierce. Oh now when I have time to write, I think I'll do a poetic dissection of some of these stills. Thanks for the inspiration.

Date: 2009-09-26 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Yes, but desire for what? He looks so menacing, too. Threatening. And she, so elusive in the looking glass.

(Ah, that's what it is. This frame puts us in her shoes. It looks like she is our reflection. Maybe? Except he's looking past us, so maybe not.)

There was another still in that set that showed Seyrig in the feather dress collapsed on the floor after being shot (maybe), and I suddenly thought of that scene in Velvet Goldmine when Brian Slade is shot (maybe) on stage in the blue feather outfit. Seemed appropriate.

Date: 2009-09-26 10:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wrdnrd
He looks menacing and she looks like a deer caught in the headlights. I don't find this set-up particularly sexy myself, because she looks both terrified and vaguely disgusted.

Tho' i definitely recognize that a menacing, voracious interaction like this can be deeply sexy.

Date: 2009-09-26 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
The sexuality in the movie has definite S/M overtones, with more than a hint of violence. One of the interpretations I've seen of the fractured quality of the narrative is that she's suppressing a memory of having been raped. Apparently Robbe-Grillet (the screenwriter) felt she had been raped, while Resnais (the director) didn't think so. Either way, there's a mood of dread that makes it seem as though something deeply unpleasant has happened or is about to happen.

Date: 2009-09-26 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ron-drummond.livejournal.com
Both you and kdot are definitely getting me to the point where I have to see this movie. Have either of you read The Invention of Morel? Or this?

Date: 2009-09-26 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
I haven't read the novel, but I have read that piece at Senses of Cinema. Although I haven't read it closely, to be honest.

The movie is a mindfuck, to be sure. It's visually mesmerising, to my mind at least, so that aspect pulls me into the puzzle, the maze of imagery and withheld meaning.

Date: 2009-09-26 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janetl.livejournal.com
It's a predator's gaze, which is not to say it isn't about desire.

Date: 2009-09-26 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Yes, that's it exactly.

Date: 2009-09-26 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowleycrow.livejournal.com
Since the day I first saw it (1964) it has been on my top ten greatest films ever made list.

Date: 2009-09-26 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowleycrow.livejournal.com
Though I have to say it always seemed radically sexless. They all want SOMEthing from each other, but it was never clear that it was sex.

Date: 2009-09-27 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Most of the time it seems as though the thing he wants most of all is for her to submit to his narrative. The author as sadist.

Date: 2009-09-27 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowleycrow.livejournal.com
Well put, and begins to ge to why I love it so much (except for the sadist part...)

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