Listless

Jun. 1st, 2010 11:00 am
randy_byers: (2009-05-10)
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"Listless" is an odd word, isn't it? What's the etymology? I like the idea that one is lacking a list, therefore lacking the focus to do anything.

In any event, that was my mood over the long weekend, although I actually got quite a bit done nevertheless. I worked all three days on my piece for the next Chunga, and I finished a draft. Problem is I still don't really know what the piece is about or what I'm trying to accomplish with it. I'm attempting to take the attitude that it is a process of discovery rather than a lack of anything interesting to say. It needs more work, but I hope not too much more, lazy bugger that I am.

The soggy weather was one reason for the lack of list, so I didn't get to work in the garden as much as I wanted to, although I did manage to mow the lawn in the rain. However, I've been meaning to mention that I recently bought a plant mostly for its name: bloody dock. It's actually a very pretty plant, which, I've just discovered from Jessica Amanda Salmonson's page on it, is edible. Hm. The nursery didn't say anything about that and treated it as an ornamental.

I watched Mamoru Oshii's anime Angel's Egg (Tenshi no tamago, 1985) twice over the weekend. It really is as strange as its reputation -- surrealist or symbolist, nearly wordless, non-narrative or at least non-linear narrative. Here's a good description I found at that link: 'Told with minimal dialogue and maximum Christian imagery, Angel's Egg shows a little girl living out her life in a gloomy, gothic, abandoned city. After she symbolically gives birth to the titular egg, she meets a Christ-like figure (complete with cross) who accompanies her to an ending that is beautiful, transcendental, and entirely depressing.' I found it kind of annoying the first time, less so the second time. There's one "speech" that seemed like the worst kind of pseudo-philosophical posturing (you know, like maybe we're all somebody else's memory, whoa), and the artwork is kind of a mixed bag. It's redolent of the Euro-comics style of Heavy Metal (the magazine), for better and worse. Still, there's something compelling about the imagery and the sense of dream logic it captures and the questions it raises. Why are the fish shadows of coelacanths? Why is the bird skeleton of an archaeopteryx?

And that's my little list of what I did this weekend. Sort of. I left out some interesting communications and a couple of whiskey sours.

Date: 2010-06-01 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] del-c.livejournal.com
"List" is not an easy word to google, is it? In this case, it's an old English word meaning pleasure, related to "lust".

Date: 2010-06-01 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Thanks. Very interesting. I'm reminded of the German phrase "Ich habe keine Lust," which is used to mean "I don't feel like it." (Which always reminds me of my very favorite German phrase of all, "Ich habe keinen Bock," which is used to mean the same thing and literally means "I have no goat."

Date: 2010-06-01 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com
Yup, I think "list" had c ome to have connotations of wish, desire, like, & want before (or about the time) "listless" came into use. In its extreme form, listlessness would equal Clinical Depression, I suppose.
And yeah, it's a fascinating word -- which I all to often have occasion to apply to my mood of the moment.

Mind you, I go along with the idea that Making A List of Things To Do works best if you are careful to omit the most important ones, because you (or I, in this case) tend to delay embarking on such a formal thing by doing (insert vague handwave) other things first.


Date: 2010-06-01 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
I suppose that what I really should have written about under this subject-line is the fact that I didn't actually create a To-Do list for the weekend, which is odd for me, especially considering I had a number of things in mind that I wanted to get done, which usually precipitates a list. So I was so listless in mood and in fact.

Date: 2010-06-01 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishlifter.livejournal.com
In one sense I am never listless; in others it's simply the existence of a list (even a mental one) that creates the state...

Date: 2010-06-01 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Ah, so you can't be listless without first creating a list.

Date: 2010-06-01 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluewoad.livejournal.com
OED gives us the great early quote of "He doth men hungren and hauen thrist, and mani other sinful list."

Love those sinful lists.

Date: 2010-06-01 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com
Wonderful! Now I'm starting to wonder about the etymology of "list" as we use it today. (Yes, I know, I could check OED myself.)

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